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From: DR AWATAR SINGH SEKHON <assekhon@shaw.ca>
Date: Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:31 AM
Subject: [bangla-vision] Re: My Reaction to 'Islam in Western Mirror' an article in Lisa Journal JUL-SEPT 2007 by Dr Nasir Khan. "Dr Awatar Singh Sekhon (Machaki) Responds"

President Usman Khalid

London Institute of South Asia

www.lisauk.com

Dear President Usman Khalid ji,

Aslaam O Alaikum!

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa,

Waheguru ji ki Fateh!

Although you have advised me not to get involved in any arguments, I fully agree with you from the bottom of my heart, my dear older brother and the President of LISA.

As a 'Member of the House of Guru Baba Nanak Sahib', I have no choice but to reply to my brothers of the 'House of Guru Baba Nanak Sahib' based on the teachings of the Sikh Guru Sahibaans, inscribed in the Holy Scripture of Sikhs, Guru Granth Sahib ji:

1. "Mathe Tikka Terrh Dhotti Hath Chhurri Jagat Kasai" in the Asa Mahalla 1 (Pahila). My brothers, your No. 1 enemy is the 'Brahmins and their Brahmins-Hindus Incorporation. Please accept the challenge and 'Ask the 'Brahmins-Hindus, Incorporation and the 'Brahmins-Hindus' alleged Indian democracy to 'Vacate the Motherland PUNJAB, the Punjab which has been robbed by the 'Brahmins-Hindus Incorporation on 15th August, 1947'.

2. "Koi Kisi Ko Raj Naa Deh Hai, Jo bhee Le Hai, Nij Bal se Le Hai -Sahib Guru Gobind Singh ji"

3. "Aval Allah Noor Upaya Kudrat ke Sab Bande, Ik Noor say Sab Jag Upjaya Kaun Bhale ko Mande" -Guru Granth Sahib ji.

4. "Mann Maila Tan Nirmala, Kion Kar Miliya Jaye, Prabh Mele Tan Mil Rahe Haume Shabad (word) Jalai" - Guru Granth Sahib ji

5. The Sikh apex institutions and the 'Landless Sikh Nation, PUNJAB, is under the 'Tight Control' under the 'Brahmins-Hindus Incorporation alias the devious, deceitful and apartheid practicing 'Brahmins-Hindus alleged Indian democracy, since 15th August, 1947.

Should you wish to fight, Sardar Maninder P S Grewal ji, you, I and all 'Members of the House of Guru Baba Nanak Sahib' must join together and let us 'Regain the Sovereignty, Independence and Political Power of the 'Landless Sikh Nation, PUNJAB'. The struggle for sovereignty has been going on since 14th March, 1849. This was the time when the 'Brahmins-Hindus' had been 'subservient' to the Afghans, Mughals, the Sikhs of the 'First Sovereign and Secular' nation of South Asia, The Sikh Raj, of Monarch Ranjit Singh, 1799 to 14th March, 1849, British, Portuguese, etc., for more than 3,500 years and until the fateful day of 15th August, 1947.

6. My dear brother Sardar Maninder P S Grewal ji, if one has to blame, please blame 'Master Tara Singh, a Brahmin convert to the 'House of Guru Baba Nanak Sahib' (see Betrayal of Sikh Nation By Master Tara Singh With British Documents of Transfer of Power 1947 By Ram Singh, Second Edition, July 2009, ISBN 978-0-9811360-6-6).

7. As far as I am concerned, I do not forget the words of the Father of Pakistan, Janab MA Jinnah, who had said to the Sikhs and their deceitful Akali leader, Master Tara Singh:

"You have seen the 'Brahmins-Hindus as co-slaves (your) only. You will know when they (Brahmins-Hindus) will be your 'masters' and you (the Sikhs) their slaves." How true were the words of Janab Jinnah, the only 'statesman and politicians' of South Asia.

My dear brother, Sardar Maninder P S Grewal ji, I close the subject right here and do not wish to continue any further. Please consider this as just the period (.) on this subject, i. e., the first and the last.

I have my never ending regards for President Khalid ji, and his team of LISA. He has his task to march forward and I wish him the very best.

With best wishes and warmest regards.

Sincerely,

Awatar Singh Sekhon (Machaki), Ph D, FIBA, RM (CCM)

Associate Professor (Retired), Medical Microbiology and Immunology

Director (Former), National Centre for Human Mycotic Disease CANADA

Editor in Chief,

International Journal of Sikh Affairs ISSN 1481-5435

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----- Original Message -----
From: Usman Khalid <usmankhalid@lisauk.com>
Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010 4:50 am
Subject: Re: My Reaction to 'Islam in Western Mirror' an article in Lisa Journal JUL-SEPT 2007 by Dr Nasir Khan
To: vtr <vtr@ndf.vsnl.net.in>, Virinderjeet Grewal <v.grewal@blueyonder.co.uk>, Sukhdev Sidhu IG <sssidhu45@yahoo.co.in>, sewa singh sidhu <sewasinghsidhu@aol.com>, Sethembile <sethembilem@yahoo.com>, Sarjit Gupta <guptasarjit@yahoo.co.uk>, Pradeep Gautam <gautam54@hotmail.com>, Nirmal Ahluwalia <nirmalahluwalia@hotmail.com>, Mohammad Esmaeli <esmaeili@hotmail.com>, Jesse Khangura <jessekhangura@yahoo.com>, Gurmukh Singh Dhandra <sewauk2004@hotmail.com>, Gurcharan Singh Buttar <gs@gurcharansingh.co.uk>, Glen Leslie <dialgee@hotmail.com>, Garcha Kulwant <kelly.garcha@hotmail.co.uk>, Daljit Grewal <dg003a3773@blueyonder.co.uk>, Bali Grewal <bgrewal@terraprobe.ca>, A S Sandhu <asandhu@hillingdon.gov.uk>, Mushtaq Lashaire <malik@lisauk.com>, Maninder P S Grewal <many1954@hotmail.co.uk>
Cc: "Dr. Awatar S. Sekhon" <assekhon@shaw.ca>

> Dear Mr Garewal,
>
> Assalam o Alaikum & Sat Sri Akal
>
> Your prejudices are evident. There is little point in getting
> into an argument or debate with you. All I wish to say is that
> we in Pakistan have forgotten the suffering of the Muslims of
> East Punjab who migrated to Pakistan in 1947( I was one of them)
> because the Sikhs have suffered much more in 1984 and since.
>
> I am sure you have a comment on my comment but do keep it to
> yourself as I reiterate I have no need or desire to get into an
> argument.
>
> Sincerely
>
> Usman Khalid
>
> P.S. Although this reply was sent to Mr Garewal, a copy is being
> sent to all addressees because he obviously wants an argument. I
> do not. None of us does. Perhaps Dr Sekhon might like to deal
> with this matter although I would advise it to be ignored.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Maninder P S Grewal
> To: Mushtaq Lashaire ; A S Sandhu ; Bali Grewal ; Daljit
> Grewal ; Garcha Kulwant ; Glen Leslie ; Gurcharan Singh Buttar ;
> Gurmukh Singh Dhandra ; Jesse Khangura ; Mohammad Esmaeli ;
> Nirmal Ahluwalia ; Pradeep Gautam ; Sarjit Gupta ; Sethembile ;
> sewa singh sidhu ; Sukhdev Sidhu IG ; Usman Khalid LISA ;
> Virinderjeet Grewal ; vtr
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 7:31 PM
> Subject: RE: My Reaction to 'Islam in Western Mirror' an
> article in Lisa Journal JUL-SEPT 2007 by Dr Nasir Khan
>
>
> Dear Malik Sahib
>
> Islam-a-Le-kam
>
> Though this e-mail was originally for Khalid Sahib, then
> I thought I forward it to all the people whose e-mail address I
> had. SAT GURU NANAK SAHIB'S message was for every human being in
> the living world not for only Sikhs.
>
> He realised after studying the state of affairs in the
> world around him. Hindus were massacred under the name of
> religion. He started a mission which was an ADVANCED FORM OF
> 'ISLAM'. It believed in one 'AKAL PURKH', 'ALLAH', 'GOD', 'RAM',
> 'BHAGWAN', 'KHASAM', 'BITHLA' ETC. ETC. THERE ARE 66 NAMES USED
> FOR GOD ALMIGHTY IN SAT(TRUE) GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI.
>
> SAT GURU NANAK JI'S RELIGION DOES NOT BELEIVE IN
> CONVERSION, BY BRIBERY TO POOR PEOPLE LIKE CHRISTIANS DO OR BY
> DEPLORING OTHER RELIGIONS, OR BY FORCE, LIKE MOST MUSLIMS DO.
> THE REASON YOU ARE A MUSLIM WAS A RESULT OF FORCED CONVERSION IN
> INDIA BY ALL THE MUSLIM RULERS EXCEPT 'AKBAR THE GREAT'.
>
> SAT GURU NANAK JI PREACHED TO STOP CONVERSION AND ASKED
> PEOPLE TO LIVE IN HARMONY WHILE PRACTICING THEIR OWN RELIGION.
>
> IF YOU READ MY FIRST E-MAIL AND START TO WORK ON IT
> TODAY, YOU WILL FIND NO HATRED TOWARDS ISLAM OR MUSLIMS IN THE
> TIME TO COME.
>
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> -------------
> From: malik@lisauk.com
> To: many1954@hotmail.co.uk
> Subject: Re: My Reaction to 'Islam in Western Mirror' an
> article in Lisa Journal JUL-SEPT 2007 by Dr Nasir Khan
> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 13:58:20 +0100
>
>
> My Dear Respected Maninder Grewal Ji
> Sat Sri Akal
> Thank you very much for your kind concern. You wrote this
> message for Usman Khalid Sb but post on my email address. Please
> note Usman Khalid Sb email address is usmankhalid@lisauk.com .
> If you remeber that I comment your question on same time but you
> are unable to respond for that. Any how I do respect your
> feeling but not necessary to agree with your suggesion.
> Regards
> Sami Malik
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Maninder P S Grewal
>     To: malik@lisauk.com
>     Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:59 AM
>     Subject: FW: My Reaction to 'Islam in Western
> Mirror' an article in Lisa Journal JUL-SEPT 2007 by Dr Nasir Khan
>
>
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------
>     From: many1954@hotmail.co.uk
>     To: usmankhalid@lisauk.com
>     Subject: My Reaction to 'Islam in Western
> Mirror' an article in Lisa Journal JUL-SEPT 2007 by Dr Nasir Khan
>     Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:16:56 +0100
>
>     Dear Usmak Khalid Sahib
>
>     Islam-a-Le-Kam.
>
>      I read the above article in 'Lisa
> Journal' that I collected when I came to attend your conference
> in July 2010, with Mr AS Sekhon & Prof. Gurtej Singh. I would
> like to ask the following Questions and I would expect a reply
> in the name of Allah Almighty.
>
>     1. Why we (Non Muslims) are not allowed to
> practice our religion openly in all the Islamic Republics of the
> World ?
>     2. How can only Muslims decide that Mohammed
> Sahib Ji was the last prophet for all mankind; for Muslims - YES
> for any other Religions - NOT.
>     3. Why you Muslims are not allowed to learn
> about or visit the Holy places of other religions ?
>     4. I watch 'Peace TV' quite often, where your
> preachers deplore other religions openly (Not only Peace TV but
> most of the Islamic Institutions). When some other
> politician or publisher or journalist says or publishes
> something about Islam that Muslims do not like; they go on the
> highest roof and cry about that.
>     5. The Middle-East problem is caused by the
> so called Islamic States surrounding Israel; why not destroy
> their rulers first.
>     6. If Osama Bin Ladin is such a good Muslim,
> Why does he not stop his own family doing business with
> Americans (particularly Bush Family). Should he not send suicide
> bombers to destroy his family assets round the world to stop
> them dealing with imperial powers.
>     7. People like you should fight against your
> own contry for being a puppet of US rather than deploring Indian
> Democracy whose economy will be NO 3 in next 25-30 years
>     Our Muslim brothers (IN India) will be
> beneficiaries of that. India has never bowed to the demands of
> any Super Power.
>
>      I can offer You a solution to that
> problem. This solution is based on SAT GURU NANAK SAHIB JI'S
> teachings in our Holy Book 'SAT GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI'. THE ONLY
> RELIGIOUS BOOK WRITTEN, COMLILED & EDITED BY THE PROPHET WITH
> HIS OWN HANDS.
>
>     1. DONT TAKE ANY NOTICE OF WHAT OTHERS TELL
> YOU OR SAY ABOUT YOU AND YOUR RELIGION, JUST THINK THEY ARE IGNORENT.
>     2. STOP HARRASING PEOPLE IN UNIVERSITIES AND
> WORK PLACES UNDER THE NAME OF PREACHING ISLAM. THERE IS NO
> HEAVEN BEYOND THIS EARTH.
>     3. TRY TO BE TRUE MUSLIMS. THAT WILL GIVE YOU
> INNER STRENGTH.
>     4. STOP PEOPLE LIKE ANJUM CHOUDHRY TELLING
> BRITISH PEOPLE TO CONVERT UK INTO AN ISLAMIC STATE, THAT WILL
> NEVER HAPPEN LIKE THIS.
>     5. FIGHT FOR THE OTHER RELIGIONS RIGHTS IN
> ISLAMIC COUNTRIES.
>     6. LAST BUT NOT THE LEAST, WHILE IN BRITAIN
> BE BRITISH AND BEHAVE LIKE THEM (WHILE STILL BEING A GOOD MUSLIM).
>     7. NEVER TELL ANYBODY THAT YOUR RELIGION IS
> BETTER THAN THEIR'S, IF YOU BECOME TRULY RELIGIOUS OTHERS WILL
> TRY TO COPY YOU.
>
>     ALL I HAVE WRITTEN IS FROM THE TEACHINGS OF
> 'SAT GURU NANAK JI'. HE STUDIED ALL THE RELIGIONS OF THE WORLD
> AND THEN CAME WITH THIS NEUTRAL RELIGIOUS SOLUTION !
>
>     'HIS RELIGION TELLS EVERY HUMAN TO PRACTICE
> HIS OWN RELIGION TRULY & SINCERELY. TREAT EVERY HUMAN EQUALLY &
> REMEMBER YOUR GOD ALL THE TIME & LIVE LIFE IN HIS FEAR. EARN
> YOUR OWN LIVING, TEACH YOUR CHILDREN WELL, INTELLECTUALLY,
> SOCIALLY & SPIRITUALLY'.
>
>     THAT IS WHY THERE IS NO SIKH BEGGER IN THE
> WHOLE WORLD, SIKH'S HATE TO CLAIM ILLEGAL BENEFITS BECAUSE GURU
> JI SAYS IT IS 'HARAAM'
>
>     Well I have offered you a solution, you want
> to consider it , think about it, work on it, is your problem
>
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