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Kamal Thapa wanted to impose Hindu religion on the entire Nepalese doing injustice to the millions of non-Hindu Nepalese. Do you guys believe that doing injustice to the people would bind all Nepalese to a single Nepal?

Dear Siddhi Bhaju,

Thank you so much for your very well explained supplement to encourage us against every injustice that we find in our past and present. 

No wonder, this explanation could be downright rejected by बर्मूबादि and बर्मूच्य:ज. It is easy to understand why बर्मूबादि has to reject it. They are just defending their interest. The बर्मूच्य: reject it because of their ignorance and misguided knowledge. If they are capable to understand what their masters are doing to them in the end, they would stop roosting for their master's interest. But, they won't do. So, as the rooster does in nature, I find this rooster character so accurate in your subject of explanations too. See, the Gwonga bhaju was prosecuted by his master बर्मू Koirala, and he is unable to understand that he was on the dinner table for them to eat because he is a Gwonga. Instead, he thinks it would be a different story if he had a different master (a politician who is less corrupt than the one who victimized him). Now, show us, who (बर्मू politicians) did not similar job? Just find out how may Gwongas had been victimized during Koirala, Deuba, Chand, Thapa, Nepal, Dahal, Khana, etc. etc. If they did not benefit from the injustice, would they continue to keep the same system in those long decades? They are busy just to finger-point each other, play a blame game and somehow manage to stick with the same system.  

This is the hard fact of Nepal. It has not changed and will not change whether I use soft flowery words or the harsh bitter words. The बर्मूच्य:ज are all victimized here and there and they will continuously get victimized until they keep roosting for their ill-minded master बर्मूज. 

Dear Bihari Krishna Gwonga Bhaju, 

You may have got time to go through the links I provided. All reasonings that you expected from me are there. 

Love and Smile,
Jwajalapaa


 

On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Bihari Krishna Shrestha<biharishrestha@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Siddhijee,

Thank you for your compliments for my work in the government back then when I was one of its officials. However, while I agree with you that I had been meted out injustice by a bunch of corrupt politicians who had no qualms carrying out what I think was the behest of their mentors, a certain foreign power in our region, I have difficulty linking it with and blaming it on Prithvi Narayan Shah just because the former happened to share the same ethnicity, the Hindu high caste category, with the latter.

 

Regarding this "Jwajalapaa" fellow, I assume that he is also a Newar like me. As a fellow Newar, I would have very much liked to see him take on me on my reasoning in a more dignified manner than what he has done. I have difficulty responding to such communications that fails to maintain a certain decorum that, I think, should go with any inter-personal exchanges, particularly in a public forum like this.

 

Bihari Krishna Shrestha


On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Siddhi Ranjitkar <siddhiranjit@gmail.com>wrote:

 

To Whom It May Concern: Today's Monsters of Injustice

 

Prithvi Narayan Shah had been only the symbol of injustice. He had been dead for more than two-and-a-half centuries ago but his injustice had lived on. It was not surprising that some people defended him, as knowingly or unknowingly they wanted to continue the injustice prevailed in the Nepalese politics, society and economy. They did not have sense of justice even in the 21st century. It was disgraceful to them and we need to fight against injustice until the last drop of blood would flow in our veins.

 

Kamal Thapa wanted to impose Hindu religion on the entire Nepalese doing injustice to the millions of non-Hindu Nepalese. Do you guys believe that doing injustice to the people would bind all Nepalese to a single Nepal? The answer is certainly, 'no'. In fact, Mr. Thapa had been sowing the seed of disintegration of the country. If Mr. Thapa were to be successful to introduce his religion on the non-Hindus, it would surely provoke the non-Hindus and they would rise to fight against injustice done to them. Do you think that then he would be able to put Nepal in one piece?

 

The most unfortunate thing happened to the people fighting for justice had been Prime Minster Sushil Koirala attended the tea party held by Mr. Thapa in honoring the injustice done to the Nepalese people for more than two-and-a-half centuries. Mr. Koirala himself had been the victim of injustice. His mentor BP Koirala had suffered the whole life from the injustice done to him and his party. Sushil himself had suffered, too but unfortunately he forgot that injustice done to him and his party. He forgot that the NC leaders and cadres had repeatedly shed their precious blood to fight against the injustice. Attending the tea party, Mr. Koirala had disgraced the brave people that had died for justice, and that had recently suffered from injustice for the thirty years of the Panchayat regime.

 

Unfortunately, Mr Koirala wanted to revive the injustice joining hands with the Panchayat leaders that had demanded the capital punishment to BP Koirala and Ganeshman Singh. That would not be tolerable to the Nepalese and disgraceful to Mr Koirala himself, too. Nepalese had done justice to Mr. Sushil Koirala giving him a chance to run the administration justly and sincerely. He needed to explain to the people why he attended the tea party held for honoring the injustice otherwise he would be abusing the people's mandate.

 

Subhas Nemwang had been the victim of injustice, too. He had been the Chairman of the constituent assembly or the Speaker of the parliament as a favor done by his CPN-UML bosses otherwise he would not have betray his fellow people attending the tea party held for reviving the injustice. What Nemwang had done justice to the constituent assembly not dong his duty as the chairman but following the orders of his CPN-UML bosses? Nemwang would learn his mistake of doing injustice to the fellow citizens.

 

Now, KP Oli did not want to do justice to the people that had been repressed for more than 240 years of the rule of injustice. He wanted to use his power of the two-thirds majority again to impose the rule of injustice. Poor Oli did not realize that the time was not of the 240 years ago but of the 21st century. The people had developed different mindset and they would not tolerate any injustice anymore. Imposing injustice would break the country into pieces if Oli were to do so with the power not only of the two-thirds majority but also of bullets and ammunition. He would certainly kill some brave people but he would not be able to kill all the fighters for justice.

 

Bihari Krishnajee: I had a great respect for you as you did a great job for the people suffered from injustice when you were a joint secretary to the Ministry of Local Development. After the NC party came to power in 1990, do you remember you had once complained bitterly about the injustice done to you by the Girija administration firing you from the job of additional secretary? How painful to be the victim of injustice, you certainly know. I am talking nothing but about injustice done even to the top bureaucrat like you. So, why don't we fight for justice rather than defending the injustice?

 

Living in UK or USA or any other countries and shouting at me in the emails for fighting against injustice, those guys would be brought to justice if they were to continue to have such mindsets in the respective country, as those countries have the rule of law and rule of justice.

 

Sincerely yours

 

Siddhi B Ranjitkar

 

January 16, 2015


On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Jwajalapaa Sakasita<jwajalapaa@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear बर्मूच्य: Bihari Krishna Kukhuraa ko Bhale Gwonga Shrestha,

First of all, congratulation for having the knowledge that you are a Gwonga Kukhuraa ko Bhale. Many newars are not fortunate enough like you to know what they are, a rooster or a duck. You educated us that the nomenclature mainly derives from agriculture or livestock products (Bajimaya, Pamyae, Maeken, Nyachhyon, Gwonga) and  I will go a little more into it than the nomenclature.

You know very well that a rooster is useful to shout Kukhuri Kaaan, produce fertilized eggs, be sometime a guard to perceived danger to themselves and their masters and ultimately become food in their masters' plate. Like this natural duties of rooster, your jobs match perfectly as is seen in your couple of write up in defense of mono-ethnic Nepal, against aadivasi janjati community who wants to see multi-ethnic existence, against people demanding equal right and recognition, and touting like a parrot of khas-bahunbadi media. Your dearest job is to shout Kukhuri Kaan for your बर्मू masters, produce fertilized ground to flourish more बर्मू च्य: in Nepal, be sometime a guard to perceived danger to your kind and your mono-ethnic master and ultimately get eaten up by your masters. What a great coincidences of being a Gwonga and your character?  

You now may be thinking why this man is calling me बर्मू च्य:, right? For all other readers, let me explain in brief, बर्मू च्य: means a slave of bahun. Among newar community, those people who likes to serve खस-बाहुन and the the system protected, maintained, ruled by खस-बाहुन without considering any harm done to themselves, their own community members are known as बर्मू च्य: । These people usually live on donations, (salary, jobs, government and non-government positions, awards, recognitions etc.) provided by their barmu masters and have no sense of self-dignity at all. From outside, you may see them highly successful, recognized, popular, rich, award-winning personality, but from inside, they are hollow-minded, empty, chakadibaaj opportunists. Without these properties, they can do nothing. They don't own industry, they don't own anything that they can command. They can only be a good servant.

Coming to the point, for all of you who are so much into praising the barbaric Prithvi Narayan Shah as if an incarnation of GOD to your kind of people, you must read following contents and do a serious soul search. 


पृथ्वीनारायणलाई राष्ट्रनिर्माता मान्नु पाखण्डीपन --- गोपाल शिवाकोटी  


पृथ्वी नारायण शाहबारे उपलब्ध ऐतिहासिक प्रमाणहरुले के भन्छन ? - लक्ष्मी तामाङ


पृथ्वीनारायणले नेपाल बनाएका होइनन, नेपाल खोसेर बर्बाद बनाएका हुन ।  


पृथ्वीनारायण शाहको लुकाइएको इतिहास - पुष्प मुनकःमि 


लुकाइएको नेपाली इतिहास 


These are only a few examples, there are plenty of other scholarly authors who don't consider PN Shah a unifier anymore. Those pieces may not be of your taste, but you have to have a sound logic to counter their opinions. Repeating the middle-school level text-book contents written by some chakaribaj story teller is not enough. Invading East India company to northward toward Nepal is nothing more than a hoax and built up story without any proof so far. The 'garden' story is argued to be written later during Bhimsen Thapa's rule. The name dibyopadesh was created by Naraharinath. Yes, PN Sah was a conqueror, and there is no problem in recognizing him as a conqueror, who expanded the Gorkha territory and adopted the name "Nepal". That is it.

Thanks.    

Jwajalapaa


Dear all,

Sri Siddhi Ranjitkar normally writes well-argued papers, although one
does not agree with him all the time. The point is that he deals with
a subject generally quite exhaustively. But this one on Prithvi
Narayan Shah is vastly different, just pouring venom not only on the
late ruler belonging to an era of some two and half centuries ago,
branding him "monster of injustice" without going into why he thought
it was so. Mr. Ranjitkar was also furious with every single politician
who attended the tea party organized by Kamal Thapa. As a media person
who writes for a larger readership, the writings must read as an
objective account of a given subject or situation, discernibly free
from personal emotive excesses. While historical figures are always
viewed from many different angles, both positive and negative--and
Prithvi Narayan Shah should be no exception--it is still necessary
that such assessments be based on the interpretation of facts. In this
case, Mr. Ranjitkar has failed to honour the norms of a public writer,
and by doing so, he has only managed to climb down several notches in
the esteem and popularity he otherwise enjoyed among his audience. The
bottom line of norms for any public writing should be that it remains
dignified in its mode of expression and choice of words. While one may
disagree with a certain point of view, one has to do that without
being disagreeable himself, and this demand is particularly germane in
an email forum like this where there are no "editors".

While I, as a Newar, belong to a tribe that King Prithvi Narayan Shah
vanquished, I hold that ruler in great esteem and consider him to be a
great statesman of his time in South Asia. When he said, he would like
to make Nepal "asali Hindustan", in my view, as a devout Hindu, he
meant it in every sense of the term. While the undivided India then
was more popular as "Mughlaan" with Islam steadily spreading in the
subcontinent at the hands of the Persian and Muslim rulers,
Christianity was spreading its wings particularly in the eastern
region at the hands of the invading Westerners. And given Nepal's
geographical location as the bridge to Tibet for trans-Himalayan
trade, Prithivi Narayan Shah must have thought that it was only a
matter of time that these little kingdoms in the Himalayan range would
fall to invading East India Company sooner than later, thus putting
Hinduism at great risk. So, as the ambitious ruler that he was, it was
little wonder that he would set out to conquer and put together a
larger kingdom that could possibly resist the northward push of the
alien rulers. That is what ambitious rulers did the world over in
those days anyway.

But Prithivi Narayan Shah's greatness manifests itself after he had
put together his larger kingdom. Unlike the Sen rulers of Palpa before
him, he did not want to partition his new kingdom to his descendants.
He not only wanted the new enlarged state to remain intact (and
expanding), he, unlike most other victorious rulers in other parts of
the world, bequeathed his new kingdom to the people of all caste
ethnic groups living therein by envisioning it as a "garden" to be
owned by them all. Of his many acquisitions, Kathmandu valley was by
far the richest and most attractive of all. While we have known
through history books such victors engaging in the loot and plunder of
the vanquished, Prithvi Narayan Shah just made himself a part of the
Newari culture by letting the Kumari chariot procession to proceed
normally. The Kathmandu Newars themselves seem to have acquiesced
without much resistance, one possible reason being that in those days,
like in Europe, there was a special category of people who became
kings. History tells us that Newars had "Thaku juju" or Thakuri kings
even before Prithvi Narayan Shah descended on Kathmandu. The last
Newar king was a Malla, a Thakuri clan and not one of those many Newar
caste categories whose nomenclature mainly derives from agriculture or
livestock products such as pamyae (a bean) who now call themselves
"Pradhan",  or MaeKen (black bean, or kalo dal) now calling themselves
Maskey to make it sound more respectable. Most clan names have
remained unchanged too. Bajimaya is "I don't like Chyura", or
Nyachhyon is the head of a fish. I myself am a Gonga (a rooster) and
in my younger days, chose to go for a more generic Shrestha. In any
case, Newars of Kathmandu owe a special debt of gratitude to Prithvi
Narayan Shah. It is because of him Kathamndu is now Nepal's capital,
with its land price steadily skyrocketing and making them the richest
community in the country.

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