Fwd: [bangla-vision] India has killed thousands of Sikhs. RE: "Islam doesn't tolerate liars and spreaders of slander." "Dr Awatar Singh Sekhon (Machaki) Responds"

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Date: Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:24 AM
Subject: Re: [bangla-vision] India has killed thousands of Sikhs. RE: "Islam doesn't tolerate liars and spreaders of slander." "Dr Awatar Singh Sekhon (Machaki) Responds"
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On 2/23/10 10:49 AM, "kaukab siddique" <butshikan@msn.com> wrote:

Asalamu alaikum
Br. Minhas

These people will accept any story if it goes against the forces of Islam.
They completely ignore the atrocities of the enemies of Islam. Yesterday the US Air Force killed 27 Afghan civilians.
Do you hear the Ismailis protesting?

The Sikh story was initiated by the rabidly pro-US Dawn newspapers. It is completely unverified and is probably meant to cut off Sikh support from the Islamic forces. Sikhs are targeted by India.

Thousands [Total figure remains more than 3.2 to 3.4 million  Sikhs since 15th August, 1947, adds Dr Awatar Singh Sekhon of Canada] of Sikhs have been killed by India. Hundreds of  thousands of Sikhs are terrorized and imprisoned by India.
Do you read Essa or any Ismaili protesting to India.

I am glad you wrote against these worshippers of a westernized man
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Dr Awatar Singh Sekhon (Machaki) Responds:

Dear Dr Kaukab Siddique
<butsikan@msn.com>
&
Janab ZT Minhas and My Brothers, sisters, elders and youth of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan

Aslaam O Alaikum!

Please Do Not worry on the Two Sikhs, who have been beheaded by the 'Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) and associates' supported news media hysteria of the 'state-controlled' apartheid practicing, devious, divisive and deceitful alleged Indian democracy alias the Zulamhooriat and Zamhooriat of the 'Hindus-Brahmins' alleged Indian democracy. Perhaps, you do not know how the Asian Television Network's Punjabinews@Zeenewsnetwork.com has been making its propaganda, using the 'turbaned/Dastaardhari Hindus' in 'The Sikh Identity'. These turbaned Sikhs are the members of the 'Rashtriya Sikh Sangat (RSS)', a baby sister organization of the 'Hindus-Brahmins Rashtriya Swamsewak  Sangh' (RSS). The RSS in an offshoot of the Hindus Mahasabha (the mother of all evils). Who knows that the RSS of the 'Brahmins and Hindus' brought the 'turbaned Hindus-Brahmins' in 'The Sikh Identity' to create their hysteria against the Muslims, non-Muslims, and Sikhs? The administrations (JL Nehru son  of Thissue and Mobarak Ali' NOT of ML Nehru in anyway to Manmohan Sinh. The latter is not an elected Member of Parliament, but Sonia Gandhi alias Sonia Maino) and other 'Brahmins-Hindus' have been using him to serve their political purpose. In fact, Manmohan Sinh is a "joe boy" of Sonia Gandhi and the 'Brahmins-Hindus'.

The citizens of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan killed a few months ago in the SWAT Valley, in the name of the War against Terrorism were killed by the 'Brahmins-Hindus' RAW and armed personnel, as confirmed by the genital organs of the killed soldiers', who had penetrated the political borders of the Sovereign nation, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

The Rashtriya Sikh Sangat, a baby of the RSS, kept their mouths shut when 'massacre' of 13-Sikh was carried out in the second week of this month in the Ludhiana district of the occupied Punjab of the Sikhs since 15th August, 1947. These ethically, morally, criminals 'Hindus-Brahmins' and their state and federal (centre of the New Delhi administration) are 'bankrupt' and killing of the non-Hindus-Brahmins is their sacred duty to kill them, simply to please their blood-thirsty 33-million Hindu Gods and Goddesses.

In an "Undeclared War Against the Sikh Nation, PUNJAB, Khalistan, in the form of a brutal military "Operation Bluestar" of June, 1984, these 'Brahmins-Hindus' armed forces (army, navy and air force) killed more than 1.5 million Sikhs and the Punjab was made a 'Concentration Camp'. None of the 'Hindus-Brahmins' opened their mouth against their administration of India Gandhi alias Maimuna Begum.

None of these deceitful 'Brahmins-Hindus' opened their mouth of the genocide of 1.5 million Sikhs, and now just for two Sikhs killed by the so-called Talibans (RAW and associate intelligence agencies), have been shedding crocodile-tears.

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan and its citizens must take a lesson that the 'Hindus-Brahmins' will never be the friends of the people who follow the Islamic religion and who are the 'Members of the House of Guru Baba Nanak Sahib'.

Best wishes and warmest regards.

Your brother,

Awatar Singh Sekhon (Machaki)
Awatar Singh Sekhon, Ph D, FIBA, RM (CCM)
Associate Professor (Retired), Medical Microbiology and Immunology
Director (Former), National Centre for Human Mycotic Diseases CANADA
Managing Editor and Editor in Chief
International Journal of Sikh Affairs ISSN 1481-5435
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:38:11 -0800
From: moderate53@yahoo.com

Subject: "Islam doesnt tolerate liars and spreaders of slander."

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My dear ZTMinhas,

Assalamu Alaikum,

When Quran is so clear about lies and slander, why do you feel the need to go so far as the following comments which are against its teachings?

Anybody who recites the Shahada is considered a muslim. Although the shias do add allegiance to Ali r.a. to this, that is in no way against the spirit of tauhid.

I quote:

"Islam doesnt tolerate liars and spreaders of slander."

"The kafir with the muslim name hassan essa."

"The ismailis have been feces for muslims for centuries, it is too bad salaadin couldn't flush the toilet completely. Their time will come."

Islam also does not tolerate, nor does it allow, unnecessary killing of human beings. Then how would you describe people who commit these heinous crimes.  Would they also not be considered Kafirs?  I didn't see any criticism against these people in your post.

Please understand the far reaching implications of your statements above.  You may be held liable for slander in the court of Allah in the hereafter.  Although the Ahle Sunna do not consider Shia beliefs on par with the rest of us, this in no way make them any worse than some of our own Sunni brothers.  We don't call them "kafir", now do we?  If you look at the history of Shias and specially the fatimids, they have contributed considerably to the cause of Islam.  Their schools have produced reknowned scientists, mathematicians, philosophers, astronomers and have influenced some of our own ulemas

There are forces that have been working very hard over a long period of time to divide the Ummah and your rhetoric is only lending them a helping hand.  Let us do the right thing, the need of time, and take the best that others have to offer for betterment of our own.

As great a war hero that Salaadin was, do you realize that his own toiled was almost flushed by the Assassins (by some accounts of history) but they spared his life and Salaadin abruptly ended the seige of Assissins?

So let us be fair and make inroads towards achieving and spreading the Islamic brotherhood instead of self exterminating ourselves.

Peace.
Moderate53


Re: [PakistanAffairs] Re: 'Beheaded,my brother became a Sikh martyr'
Tue, February 23, 2010 4:53:44 AM

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